I'm not taking the bait Beachiescouple, and this is the last thing I will post in this thread.
One thing that has struck me is that no-one stood up for me; that is stood up for what is right.
I will sign off with a quote from Martin Neimoller, who was a pastor in Germany when the Nazis came to power.
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me,
and no one spoke out for me because there was no-one left.
Hasta luego, adios.
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Simone1
Over 90 days ago
Straight Female, 60
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quote]funny coming from "simone" who for as start gets on the high horse yet doesnt know abbey or pokolbin, or abbey did you know It back once heheheheheh soz had to be cheeky
Don't you dare refer to me as "it" you sick perverted loser. I am a woman and I am a human being. I am not an object, that is an "it" in your words. I am a human being with children and a job, and I do volunteer work cleaning the local church.
Don't you dare try to reduce all my qualificaions and achievements to an "it', you dirt creep.
And you say "had to be cheeky"; no you are not being "cheeky" your dirty creep, you are commiting a hate crime you vermin.
I will be watching out for your dogging posting vermin, and I can assure you I will be the beautiful woman who turns up and caves your face in with a rock you maggot.
Ps. And if you get me more angry I will cut your head off.
Don't you dare refer to me as "it" you sick perverted loser. I am a woman and I am a human being. I am not an object, that is an "it" in your words. I am a human being with children and a job, and I do volunteer work cleaning the local church.
Don't you dare try to reduce all my qualificaions and achievements to an "it', you dirt creep.
And you say "had to be cheeky"; no you are not being "cheeky" your dirty creep, you are commiting a hate crime you vermin.
I will be watching out for your dogging posting vermin, and I can assure you I will be the beautiful woman who turns up and caves your face in with a rock you maggot.
Ps. And if you get me more angry I will cut your head off.
Well Abernathy, I get the impression you have delusions of grandiosity; just because you have a female partner you expect people to travel way out to woop wood just to park their car next to yours and see? Not much, just a couple of bodies entwined and moving a bit?
Anyway is that dogging? I thought dogging was you just went somewhere and anyone who was there watched and maybe joined in.
Which raises another point; people talk about dogging signals such as flashing you interior light; just remember if you go to a carpark somewhere and do that no one will know what you are on about; dogging signals are not common knowledge here, (in Australia) nor is dogging. I have been to carparks before I came across this site and seen that and I just thought they were just looking for a cigarette lighter or checking the time or something.
I think your best bet is not to put all these hurdles in front of people, like travelling for an hour out into the countryside, but going to a busy spot and then working it, that is not relying on flashing your interion light, because only the people on this site will know what that means, and they will probable not be there, but getting out of your car, and your woman too especially, and wiggling her ass and flashing some boobies to let the peeps there know unequivocally what the deal is.
Part of the problem there was no-one there could be that you want to meet daytime during the working week.
That pretty much eliminates anyone with a job.
So you will be picking mainly from a pool of the retired and the unemployed.
Not sure where polkobin is but I get the impression it's in the country, if so some people maybe don't want to travel too far in case their time is wasted.
I think glory holes are more for, or anyway have been up till this point, more for curious or horny straight guys to get sucked off without being confronted by the reality of a guy sucking their larry. I mean they just stick larry through a hole in the wall and larry gets sucked, without them being able to see a guy sucking their dick. So they don't have to deal with the person.
Also for married guys glory holes give them anonymity, in that no-one can see who they are.
Glory holes are more of a straight male thing rather than a gay thing, for the most part.
I don't think women usually go there for the most part except maybe by accident, but who knows, maybe you are in the vanguard of changing this, but I don't know, in sleepy perth do such things as glory holes exist?
ProfilePMI wonder why Simone would say that I :The Indian With The Turban" was the one pretending to be the couple ??
I do not know Simone nor have ever communicated with her. I do however, know and have met several other, members from this site (Both guys and couples) who can vouch for me, being a decent straight forward chap.
I really struggle to understand why someone would indulge in character assassination, without even knowing the person
Sad !
Surdy
Sorry, I didn't mean literally that the gentleman of Indian descent was the one who created the couples profile and then posted a false meeting.
I was just trying to make a point that some of these alleged couples posting dogging meetings are probably single guys posing as couples to try and get another couple (read woman) to turn up.
If the post I was responding to had referred to 'the man sitting in the corner reading the newspaper' instead of an Indian with a turban then I would of posted "newcouple was the man sitting in the corner reading the newspaper".
This certainly wasn't meant to be an attack on the gentleman of Indian descent, I just mentioned him to help make my point because one of the other posters said he was present, so I'm sorry if it comes across that I was seriously accusing him of being the one who created the fake profile.
This just popped into my head.
I was thinking about a night recently when I was taking my dog for a walk down to the beach and a came across a car parked by the side of the road leading to the beach. I could see a girl sitting in the back seat looking at me as I stood nearby waiting while my dog sniffed a tree. I couldn't see a guy in the car, I just assumed there was one there somewhere, maybe lying down or something.
She looked interested in me but I was a bit shy about approaching closer because I didn't know if she/they would welcome it or tell me to stop perving.
But I was thinking later I probably should have.
Anyway I was thinking about that and then it popped into my head that in the Tips for Doggers it recommends that you wear running shoes when going dogging in case you have to make a hasty retreat!
So just wondering if anyone on here has been in a situation where they thought people were dogging and approached only to have to run for their lives from an angry boyfriend or whatever?
Simone1 the post we read stated they are installed inside the cinemas not around the entrance or out outside the cinema
They already have cameras already in the entrance booths / stairwell and bookshop areas
Melbcpl01
Ok, I see, wonder why they did that then? Maybe there have been some incidents that we don't know about?
Maybe pickpockets or something?
If I lived in Melbourne I would go and ask them.
Would be a bit offputting though knowing you are being filmed, and the footage probably saved.
Sounds an interesting place the dendy though, an actual cinema like Hoyts where you sit down and watch movies, except x rated ones or r rated.
I haven't come accross anything like that in sydney, there just seems to be video booths out the back of adult shops.
The only one I came across like that was in adelaide a long time ago when I was on holidays, there was an adult bookstore and there was cinema there as well, and a brothel through a door from the cinema and I think a cruising area for guys upstairs. All there really.
Anyway I used to go and sit in the cinema and smoke a joint and relax.
But the last night I went it got raided by the cops, and they took everyones names and addresses. There were about eight cops and they weren't all that friendly.
There was a guy sitting a few seats away from me and they said to him, what are those booths upstairs used for and he said I dont know. The cop said could they be used for guys having sex with each other and he said they might be.
Maybe that's why they raided the place, I don't know, it thought these things were legal. Maybe not in adelaide at that time.
They already have cameras already in the entrance booths / stairwell and bookshop areas
Melbcpl01
Ok, I see, wonder why they did that then? Maybe there have been some incidents that we don't know about?
Maybe pickpockets or something?
If I lived in Melbourne I would go and ask them.
Would be a bit offputting though knowing you are being filmed, and the footage probably saved.
Sounds an interesting place the dendy though, an actual cinema like Hoyts where you sit down and watch movies, except x rated ones or r rated.
I haven't come accross anything like that in sydney, there just seems to be video booths out the back of adult shops.
The only one I came across like that was in adelaide a long time ago when I was on holidays, there was an adult bookstore and there was cinema there as well, and a brothel through a door from the cinema and I think a cruising area for guys upstairs. All there really.
Anyway I used to go and sit in the cinema and smoke a joint and relax.
But the last night I went it got raided by the cops, and they took everyones names and addresses. There were about eight cops and they weren't all that friendly.
There was a guy sitting a few seats away from me and they said to him, what are those booths upstairs used for and he said I dont know. The cop said could they be used for guys having sex with each other and he said they might be.
Maybe that's why they raided the place, I don't know, it thought these things were legal. Maybe not in adelaide at that time.
COUPLES : DONT BOTHER BOUT GOING TO 'THE DEN' .. ITS FOR FAGS.. WOULDNT EVEN LET FEMALES IN :S
No offensive terms to describe fellow human beings please; Fags, Niggers, Trannie, Coon, etc are all prima facie offensive words that are a term of denigration no matter what the context they are used in.
You should of said its for men seeking other men only.
And anyway most of the guys who go there probably don't identify as gay, they are more likely to be curious married men or bisexual or just horny straight guys.
After all whats the difference between gay and straight? 5 schooners.
And some of these places don't let women in simply for safety reasons; it does happen that guys meet a drunk girl and take them to these places and have sex with them and then abandon them there, and they pass out and by the time they wake up 50 strangers have had sex with them.
Well whaddaya do? How do you educate these silly people? They must have no shame to carry on the way they do; without any feelings of embarrasment.
I think you have to be assertive and say an a loud authoritave voice, stand back please and don't crowd us please.
We don't mind you watching but don't come too close and crowd us please.
Club X has a cinema and video booths but no glory holes unfortunately.
Surprised some enterprising soul hasn't made some yet?
A gay guy I once knew told me, and this was a fair while ago, that he was in Sheparton in vic. for a little while and at the local toilets someone with an obvious work ethic had chipped a glory hole through the brick wall separating the toilet cubicles with a hammer and chisel probably. All done in one night according to him.
So maybe if someone has a battery powered drill that doesn't make too much noise and can put it in a backpack?
Maybe they are just at the entrance. I don't see why they would need cameras in the cinema itself.
Just ran out of credit on my phone but maybe someone can just phone directory assistance and get their number and phone them up and ask them. But if they do have cameras then, hey, who wants to star in a new website starting up soon called "adventures at the dendy"?
If fishing was as hard as dogging we'd all just say "bugger it" and have hamburgers instead, every time!
It's definately not the most productive way to get sex, but for some it's the thrill of the chase. Like fishing if you find it pleasureble to sit on a jetty dangling a line and looking at the scenery, and that is your reward and you dont care if you catch something or not, then dogging would be a pleasurable way to pass the time.
But if you want results now then dont bother with dogging. Taking into account the cost of fuel used driving around then it would be cheaper to go get a hooker. But some people like the chase; all the driving around and sitting in car parks in the expectation that something may happen. That is most of the fun for them; the chase.
Hi there and thank you for the responses.
Its been on here for a just over a week and was really hoping for some commitment from every one so this could be arranged. I suppose its just not really going to work.
One spot would be great so everyone goes to one place and people dont have to say any couples out tonight ect.
Well we tried and once again thanks to all that did want this to take shape.
Hope to meet up with some of you soon.
It's a good idea so dont be disheartened; but what would be better is to have a few spots in different parts of sydney; sydney is a very spread out city and some people dont want to travel all the way across town to see if there is some dogging going on that night, although some desperates dont mind doing that. Needs to be some nominated spots in different geograhpical areas, for example one on the north shore, one down south, and a couple out west.
Well I think your main problem will be that Horsham is a fairly small country town; I doubt any dogging will be going on there because being a small town if anyone does anything like dogging the whole town will know about it by 10am the next morning; the problem with small country towns is that people are scared to be themselves, because they will see the same people the next day and everyone will be talking about it.
In a big city people can be themselves, and do whatever they want to do; because they will probably never see those people again, and they probably don't know anyone you know.
A big city is anonymous; I call it the freedom of anonymity; because no-one knows you you can do what ever you want to do and you know your neighbours wont be talking about it for two generations.
But good luck anyway.
Just wondering if anyone has been there recently and could they post what it's like now.
I think someone posted a while back that it had been renovated; just wondering if it's much the same set up.
I haven't been there for about three years but it was a good spot for dogging on the weekend nights; being in the middle of a busy entertainment strip lots of drunk or drugged young girls used to come in there.
Had some good times there.
Although I remember once I was there and I met a young girl, about 25, anyway I invited her into my video room and because I felt like taking it slow I was just playing around a bit and then after a bit she goes, "I can't stand all this touchy feely stuff" and jumps up and takes off!
I don't know, I think she just wanted her pants pulled down and to be fucked immediately!
Anyway anyone been there recently could you please post what it's like now; I'm thinking of going there in the near future.
Thanks.
Found this on another site. Although it seems to be mainly directed at male doggers looking to have sex with men I don't thing the cops would act different if it was mainly heterosexual dogging.
I came across what I think is the English branch of this site and from some of the posts there they are getting a lot of harassment from the cops and the local councils, with police harrassment and councils installing gates at the entrance to some dogging sites and lockin them at night to bulldozing great swathes of trees in parks to deter doggers.
Seems worse there probably because dogging is more longer established and widespread, whereas here I don't think it has widely caught on yet and the cops haven't really cottoned on to it yet.
Anyway:
Braye Park, Newcastle
June 10, 2012 — homophobic officers have increased patrols — monitor police activity — REPORT
officers have been approaching men in both car parks, requesting personal details, recording vehicle registration details, and threatening to fine men parked at top of hill – even though it's legal to park there
officers have also been observed driving around park at excessive speeds, and making inappropriate and homophobic comments… a homophobic female officer yelled from police vehicle (registration recorded) — 'we can do whatever we want'
officers are also failing to clearly display their identification badge, and not identifying themselves on approach… ask for the officers name, rank and station and/or note the vehicle registration details if they refuse to provide their details
also be aware that police are further intimidating and harassing men by stopping vehicles after leaving the park, and requesting driver and passenger identification — remain calm and ask why you've been stopped and questioned – note what they do and say to you… remember to always ask for the officers name, rank and station – or simply note the vehicle registration details if they refuse to provide these details
these matters have been raised with Chief Supt. Donna Adney
