I went to Shed 16 on Saturday night and arrived at 10:15. Was told there were 4 guys and no couples in mixed side of club. Paid $20 and entered, changed down and bought a drink. About 20-25 mins later, a couple entered the club to be told that it was very quiet in here but elsternwick club was busy. So they left... 20 mins later I was told that they were closing for the night due to lack of people but that elsternwick was busy... Not given refund or credit to elsternwick... And was told if I wanted to enter the gay side of the club I would also have to pay entry of $20.
I called up the club in elsternwick about 7 weeks ago to enquire about entrance for single guys and was told that all were welcome that evening...Drove all the way there to be told at the door that it was couples only...Both are run by the same people...
It seems to me that they are only after the money. Well I can't be bothered travelling to either venue any more... Someone please inform me if they ever have a change of ownership as I will not attend either venue anymore... Sorry to all the people I have met and played with at these places...It doesn't look like it will happen again for a long time...
Well Shed 16 and Attunga, not only have you lost a customer but I will telling all that ask all about it here, on other sites and at other venues as well as all I talk to. Goodbye.
I have also been to Shed 16, the place in Elsternwick, Madison's and Stilletoes.
As a single guy on here I have also had my fair share of wrath and misfortune
attending these places. Overall I found only half of these were accommodating.
Having said this you do get your good with the bad. I have on a couple of occasions
attended these places and not had sex or play with anyone. A lot of people can be
quite harsh, it's tough out there. There needs to be some sort of fair management
system so everyone gets a turn. Or in this case some 'playtime' you pay big money
to get into some of these places which is outrageous. I myself would rather go to a
brothel on the odd occasion. I'd rather spend that little bit extra for an accommodating
and safe environment or better get go out make some friends and have fun with others.
Go dating, meet someone on a dating website that's interested in company and or a
good time. I myself are not in any hurry to frequent these venues but I don't mind if it's
a one off kind of thing. I hope my two cents may have helped a little.
Quote by tydy86 There needs to be some sort of fair management system so everyone gets a turn. Or in this case some 'playtime'
You might want to clarify that, because it could be interpreted so very, very wrongly. The women that attend these places are not hired by the venue for your pleasure. The venue has no control over who the women play with (or even if they play at all), and you have absolutely zero right to "a turn" with any of them, regardless of how much money you have paid (remember, swingers clubs are NOT a brothel). If a woman wants to play with you, then that's simply your good fortune. As far as we can tell, the main way to increase the likelihood of more guys getting some fun is to improve the female to male ratio. And there are two ways to do this - attract more women (not easily done), or limit the number of single guys attending. I hope this is what you mean by "getting a turn" (ie. a turn at attending a party where there are limited single guys). High prices for men is the simplest way (and maybe the most profitable for the business?) to limit the number of men entering, but then you end up with men "expecting" some action because they've paid so much money. What other options do you imagine? A waiting list? There is one easy way for you to get more action. Turn bi.
^ what TT said.
I do interpret your post as implying you have a right to get "playtime" just because you paid the cover charge. Understand this, you are not paying for sex, you are paying for the privilege of entry into the club, anything beyond that is completely up to the couples and/or women present on the night.
These clubs are not brothels, you are not paying for sex, you are not entitled to sex, you are not entitled to anything other than the opportunity to make a good enough impression to be offered sex. If you fail to do so then the fault does not lie with the club or those present on the night.
That being said clubs wishing to build and maintain a good reputation should use an equal level of honesty and fairness for ALL patrons, if they cater to single guys then they should treat them with the same courtesy as couples or single women.
But these venues 'are' similar to brothels. C'mon like minded adults going to a swinger party with no action is like setting fire to your wallet. I for one am not 'turning bi' all because of a lot of narrow minded people who 'think' they are swingers. If you practice what you preach then we won't have any issues. Remember who you are and what you are on here for.
Oh my god - are you serious?!
Yes, women do go to swingers parties hoping to have sex - but only if someone there takes their fancy. Nobody - repeat NOBODY - is under any compulsion to have sex with anyone unless they want to. At a singles night there is invariably way more guys than women, and swinging does not mean that every woman is up for gang bangs with all comers. So many, many guys are always going to miss out even before attraction comes into it.
Seriously - it's pushy attitudes of expectation, like the one you're displaying, that completely puts women off singles nights. Please do us all a favour and never ever attend a swingers party again! If you're looking for someone to blame for making singles nights a failure, look no further than yourself!
Quote by tydy86 But these venues 'are' similar to brothels. C'mon like minded adults going to a swinger party with no action is like setting fire to your wallet. I for one am not 'turning bi' all because of a lot of narrow minded people who 'think' they are swingers. If you practice what you preach then we won't have any issues. Remember who you are and what you are on here for.
OMFG! Really? Either you're a troll or completely ignorant of how the swing scene actually works and the universally excepted rule that governs it. Please educate yourself on the subject before commenting again, you will save yourself from looking like even more of a dick.
Quote by tydy86 But these venues 'are' similar to brothels. C'mon like minded adults going to a swinger party with no action is like setting fire to your wallet. I for one am not 'turning bi' all because of a lot of narrow minded people who 'think' they are swingers. If you practice what you preach then we won't have any issues. Remember who you are and what you are on here for.
You are so so so wrong on every count , they are not like a brothel in any way , first your NOT paying for sex just an entrance charge , NO women are paid by the venues to work the rooms , Women and couples attend because they want to for thier pleasure , if your luck to be part of it , thats your good fortune Just because people are at a swingers party does not mean they are there for sex , they could meet up with like minded people then play elsewhere or plan future meets outside of the venue Clearly you know nothing about what swinging try doing some reseach on the subject , google is a good starting point The only point we would agree on if the venue said they were closing because of lack of patrons , say withing 30 minutes of someone arriving (male female couple) as a act of good will they could offer at least a discount voucher to thier other venues staying open later on the night Melbcpl01
Quote by tydy86 But these venues 'are' similar to brothels. C'mon like minded adults going to a swinger party with no action is like setting fire to your wallet. I for one am not 'turning bi' all because of a lot of narrow minded people who 'think' they are swingers. If you practice what you preach then we won't have any issues. Remember who you are and what you are on here for.
You really are ignorant. So you're implying that just because people go to swingers clubs and not have sex that they're not swingers? Fail! It's your narrow minded attitude that is holding you back. "Remember who you are and what you are on here for" - We are a couple who enjoys other couples, that's why we are here. Sadly 95% of the single males here think like you. Being a swinger does NOT mean we'll have sex with anyone. If anything it's even more difficult to find mutual attraction between 4 people, but being a single male with only one thing on his mind you wouldn't understand that. Go troll on the vanilla dating sites where the ratio of women to men is 15:1.
Quote by tydy86 But these venues 'are' similar to brothels. C'mon like minded adults going to a swinger party with no action is like setting fire to your wallet. I for one am not 'turning bi' all because of a lot of narrow minded people who 'think' they are swingers. If you practice what you preach then we won't have any issues. Remember who you are and what you are on here for.
OMG you cant be serious???? We have been to parties just so we can meet like minded people and not just goto fuck! And single guys say they get a bad wrap but then a single male has this opinion!
Quote by tydy86 But these venues 'are' similar to brothels. C'mon like minded adults going to a swinger party with no action is like setting fire to your wallet. I for one am not 'turning bi' all because of a lot of narrow minded people who 'think' they are swingers. If you practice what you preach then we won't have any issues. Remember who you are and what you are on here for.
Now there is a contradiction on your profile. "I'm not pushy and don't like pushy ppl". And yet you are pushy expecting sex from the females that attend the Shed 16 or venues like this. Yes we attend these venues when on holidays and yes we go there for sex with others BUT it is mrs choice as to who she wants to play with and NO means NOOOOOO. As Andyg said, sometimes you go only to meet people and maybe play away from the venue in private. And that is a mega NO from us.
Quote by tydy86 I have on a couple of occasions attended these places and not had sex or play with anyone. A lot of people can be quite harsh, it's tough out there. There needs to be some sort of fair management system so everyone gets a turn. Or in this case some 'playtime' you pay big money to get into some of these places which is outrageous.
Did read this forum a few times in recent days and was not going to comment, but couldn't let it go! Anyway, it is obvious that there are some people out there that really don't know what is provided by these clubs and are filled with expectationsof what should be included because they pay an entrance fee. Remember that the entrance fee is paid by mostly everyone (in some cases single ladies have free entry to try and encourage their attendance). Clubs provide: the venue, lockers, lube, towels, condoms, movies, drinks.... pretty much everything you need to have a great playtime. They encourage people to meet, talk and conduct CONSENSUAL play. The club does notguarantee any individuals or couples any action - that is the responsibility of the consenting adults in attendance at the time. When we attend, we will go to the bar and just mingle first. Mrs C enjoys chatting and flirting and it gives her a chance to talk to others and decide if she is willing to play with them. This was the case on Tuesday 23 September, when we attended Bay City. Although we did meet up with some friends that we knew previously, Mrs C invited some new "friends" along to the room to play (hello Mits). But not everyone there was invited, nor would they ever be. How did these guys get to play with Mrs C.... simple! Step 1 - They introduced themselves at the bar and joined the conversation. Step 2 - Mrs C was comfortable with their attitude and personality! Step 3 - Mrs C made it known to Mr R that they would be welcome to play. Step 4 - The conga line starts towards the room, including many other hopefuls. Step 5 - Only those people indicated by Mrs C have the opportunity to play (she holds the veto card always) We have played in open rooms and closed rooms - which again depends on Mrs C. Tuesday evening she wanted the closed room and invited around half a dozen guys into the room to play (some new). This was done on two occasions in the evening. The rest of the time was relaxing at the bar. See our post - "23rd was a good night". During the second session, someone had opened the lockeddoor and entered the room without an invite???? This person was promptly ejected, but proves that some people will just expect that they can join in at any time with anyone. Again we are aware that there are pushy people out there and some with unrealistic expectations, but we don't let it spoil our fun - we just make sure we stay in control and report to management those that become over zealous (as we did with our uninvited guest on Tuesday). Sorry tydy86, but you would not be invited to play with us at any time based on your expectations. Having fun swinging - RandC
Seriously is it any wonder guys have a bad name on here check the f#@*%)g name of the site SWINGERS HEAVEN not PROSTITUTES HEAVEN or HAVE AT IT GUYS HEAVEN!!!! Really guys understand the concept of the lifestyle and your halfway there. IF you are invited to play with a couple or couples they are inviting you into their life so treat that privilege with the respect it deserves and not as your right as hard cock wielding ego maniac.
Quote by tydy86 I have also been to Shed 16, the place in Elsternwick, Madison's and Stilletoes. As a single guy on here I have also had my fair share of wrath and misfortune attending these places. Overall I found only half of these were accommodating. Having said this you do get your good with the bad. I have on a couple of occasions attended these places and not had sex or play with anyone. A lot of people can be quite harsh, it's tough out there. There needs to be some sort of fair management system so everyone gets a turn. Or in this case some 'playtime' you pay big money to get into some of these places which is outrageous. I myself would rather go to a brothel on the odd occasion. I'd rather spend that little bit extra for an accommodating and safe environment or better get go out make some friends and have fun with others. Go dating, meet someone on a dating website that's interested in company and or a good time. I myself are not in any hurry to frequent these venues but I don't mind if it's a one off kind of thing. I hope my two cents may have helped a little.
Tydy86, you seem to be missing the MAJOR point of women at a swingers club or party and it is the CRITICAL point for the ladies. You are the one that is there for the LADIES enjoyment and pleasure, she is NOT there for your enjoyment and pleasure. It is when the lady decides that you are the type of person she wants to play with that you get your pleasure, not before and by no means guaranteed and should you feel that you are entitled to some fun, then I would suggest that you go to a brothel as suggested. Oh, but do also be aware that in brothels the ladies do have a right of refusal to any client and as such, you cannot be guaranteed of receiving your pleasure, but yes you would get money back unless you went to a room and mistreated the lady involved. It may be time for you to reassess which parties you attend and perhaps reassess what you want from the swinging lifestyle as reading your post the issue is your perception of the scene, your worth and your entitlement at a party. As for the insinuation that because you front money that you are entitled to something, have you ever paid to attend a sports event and your teams have been smashed ? Did you ask for your money back? Don't forget that many who attend swingers parties are there for voyeuristic pleasures as well, so no entry fee guarantees play. Best of luck with your ongoing search
Yes some house parties give/gave regular ladies a kick back. That's part of one reason one club closed got sprung. Know of another that gives a few regs a few bucks. Also know people on here that have made money out of home parties and other stuff. While I'm not a regular swinger I was offered to be a reg as well with a small fee when attending so yes ladies do get offered by the organisers.
Tara
Quote by tydy86 I don't care really, just putting it out there. I wouldn't want to play with you guys anyway. You don't sound like you would be nice people. Good luck
No problems at all mate and (genuinely) best of luck to you with your search and we do hope that at some stage you will find that which it is you seek. You are as entitled to your opinion as we and other contributors are to ours which is an aspect that makes this type of forum an interesting and worthwhile place to visit. Again mate, best of luck with it (genuinely)
Quote by tydy86 I don't care really, just putting it out there. I wouldn't want to play with you guys anyway. You don't sound like you would be nice people. Good luck
No, you are NOT entitled to sex! You have to earn it by being polite and not pushy! Your attitude that our wives and loved ones are prostitutes will get you nowhere. Come up to the bar and meet people and you might get somewhere - Lurking around the rooms and corridors accidently brushing up against the girls as they pass will not earn you any treats. You need to get a life. (Just my never-to-be-humble opinion.)
Quote by tydy86 I don't care really, just putting it out there. I wouldn't want to play with you guys anyway. You don't sound like you would be nice people. Good luck
Says the guy that thinks that every woman that goes to a swingers club is a prostitute. :giggle:
I apologise for what I had posted in previous months. I didn't realise that my comments at the time were hurtful. I made a mistake of not gathering enough information on the subject. I just hope you guys can forgive me for what I had said.
Quote by tydy86 I apologise for what I had posted in previous months. I didn't realise that my comments at the time were hurtful. I made a mistake of not gathering enough information on the subject. I just hope you guys can forgive me for what I had said.
Hi tydy86 It is a very good thing for you to come out and say that, and a lot of people wouldn't do so even if they realise they are wrong. Kudos for that. However it's not that your comments were hurtful to some people, it's that they demonstrated an attitude completely at odds with what swinging is about. No woman (or man, or anybody) should ever be obligated to have sex with someone she's not interested in just because the guy has paid money to get in the door and "wants his turn". Yes, we know it's frustrating for single guys to rock up to a venue where the small number of women are either not playing at all or simply not playing with you. But that does not give you the right to be a fuckwit about it. Your apology would be better received if you could demonstrate a new attitude towards women, or changed expectations of their choices at parties.
wow its outrageous that anyone would spout such firm intimations without any experience at all relying on research , then when experienced folks made comment and suggestions they arent nice people , personally you can have a go and obviously youll get the outcome you have I dont blame you for that but we choose not to have to deal with the single guys at clubs. We go to couples only nights and this thread entirely justifies our long established preference after many years of on the spot experience not google search ,
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