Hi everyone. It is not often that I feel the need to post but after an outing to arrows in Sydney on Sat night I feel compelled to share our experience.
My partner and I decided to head to arrows to check it out. We called ahead of time to try and get a feel for the place and to see if there were any other couples there. We were told there were about 4 other couples in so we thought we would give it a try.
After paying our entry and dropping our belongings in the locker we proceeded the bar area where we were greated by a staff member who told us the layout of the club. At this time he told us we were the only couple there and that the couples only area was closed due to being short staffed.
We headed to the first level closely followed by two single guys walking so close they almost hit us when we stopped. By the time we walked to the next level there were a pack of about ten guys wearing just towels, walking so close you could feel them breathing. I asked them if they were following us and if they were to please stop. A few steps later and the same thing. We couldn't even turn around or stop and talk amongst ourselves. Not one guy was polite enough to talk to us - just following like a pack of dogs on heat. We asked them several times to please leave us alone.
By now I was starting to feel very anxious so we went straight back down to the bar to see the staff. We told them about the guys and straight away they knew the group if guys that were behaving this way. We told the guy that we didnt feel comfortable with the bahaviour of these guys, and given that the advertised couples area wasn't open and how little time we had been there that we would prefer to just leave and get our money back. The staff member went away and came back refusing a refund.
We do understand that guys are horny but it was seriously off putting, confrontational and inappropriate to follow a couple in a pack like that as soon as we entered and then further to have no understanding from the staff made a bad situation worse.
Just wanted to let other people know our experiences as we would warn other couples thinking of going there just what it is like.
M & J
weve heard the same thing, try the couples club, we had a blast there when we went on a saturday
no single guys wooo hoooooo
costs a bit, have a look at thier website
Yeah we have been there before but thought we would try something different.
I've probably under played how we were made feel - never again.
Hopefully we will laugh about it one day
Been there and seen this happen also.
Problem is, its the type of place that you never know whats going to happen or who will be there. Understand why its confronting but to the credit of the crowd of guys that go. I've never seen any inappropriate behaviour after they've been told no, not interested. Remember a couple getting it off in a open room with maybe 10 guys watching and doing what guys do to themselves, a couple of the guys reached out to touch but where firmly told no and they didn't try again.
I've seen many couples and single females when I occasionally rockup and they fall into two camps. Either they go straight to a room and invite select males in, or have a rendezvous with another couple planned in one of the rooms. The other group enjoy a crowd watching or want group sessions with males involved. The single women that I've met normally want a few guys involved (some all at once others one at a time when invited).
Think if you attend, either post up here and see if you can get a few other couples to go too, or plan on being firm with your requirements.
hi there
i use to go to arrows alot i went with a friends she played i just went with her for saftey reason i didnt play it wasnt my thing but when my friend and my self went for the first time i went to have a look and was followed around and it made me feel so uncomptible we use to go on sat nite every fornite so i use to sit down stairs and talk to the bar stufff they were nice guys then this was about 3 yrs ago so it all changed now and now there cover charge and can say the place smelt a bit it was bit offf putting i had to go outside for fresh air every 1/2 hr or so and about a month ago there was shooting outside arrows and ive never been back
later
Ive gone buy myself, and the same thing happens to me.
sometimes I will be playing,guy or girl, and then all these cocks turn up.
but they do have privet rooms, and confront the blokes, tell em to fuck off. they dont talk and creep rround cause they are usuall fraidy cats who cant get pussy.
You were told there was 4 other couples and there wasn't ,i would have stayed and caused a ruckus until i got my money back.
By the sounds of it they have a reputation and i cant see them lasting to long.
Quote by mr_twonewbies on the other side of it arrows is a gay/bi place. i believe its trying to get couples into there for more money.
Think its more trying to appeal to all of the various interest groups. You read on the various forums that the gay/bi guys don't like the transexual/crossdressers attending, so they made TS/CD days I think Tuesday/Wednesday or something. So then the TS/CD crowd complains.... Same with couples, I think by making Saturday night or whatever it is they're hoping it to be known. that couples can attend on those days and hopefully meet like minded people. To be honest its really hit and miss for everyone, I'm been and its deady so I leave 15mins later. Sometimes you go and its absolutely the "best of times". Whatever you think of the place its the only western Sydney destination thats open 24/7 and open to everyone. Think we need to accept it for what it is, else we'll have to visit the city all of the time (and some of those places aren't too clean either).
Quote by lusciouscouple Hi everyone. It is not often that I feel the need to post but after an outing to arrows in Sydney on Sat night I feel compelled to share our experience. My partner and I decided to head to arrows to check it out. We called ahead of time to try and get a feel for the place and to see if there were any other couples there. We were told there were about 4 other couples in so we thought we would give it a try. After paying our entry and dropping our belongings in the locker we proceeded the bar area where we were greated by a staff member who told us the layout of the club. At this time he told us we were the only couple there and that the couples only area was closed due to being short staffed. We headed to the first level closely followed by two single guys walking so close they almost hit us when we stopped. By the time we walked to the next level there were a pack of about ten guys wearing just towels, walking so close you could feel them breathing. I asked them if they were following us and if they were to please stop. A few steps later and the same thing. We couldn't even turn around or stop and talk amongst ourselves. Not one guy was polite enough to talk to us - just following like a pack of dogs on heat. We asked them several times to please leave us alone. By now I was starting to feel very anxious so we went straight back down to the bar to see the staff. We told them about the guys and straight away they knew the group if guys that were behaving this way. We told the guy that we didnt feel comfortable with the bahaviour of these guys, and given that the advertised couples area wasn't open and how little time we had been there that we would prefer to just leave and get our money back. The staff member went away and came back refusing a refund. We do understand that guys are horny but it was seriously off putting, confrontational and inappropriate to follow a couple in a pack like that as soon as we entered and then further to have no understanding from the staff made a bad situation worse. Just wanted to let other people know our experiences as we would warn other couples thinking of going there just what it is like. M & J
Hi Lusciouscouple, Sorry to see the experience at Aarows was less than ideal. As can often happen at these sort of places, an excess of Single Males with their towels on lends itself to increased testosterone and in your case uncomfortable behavior. For a couple in Sydney, there does not seem to be many places people can go and express themselves when they feel like it aside from the regular clubs - Couples Club. Sometimes you just feel like a frolic, a somewhat spur of the moment release and there is very little that caters to that in Sydney. Aarows is a pretty unique venue and I can vouch for the fun I have had there in an organised meet, however we did have to contend with multiple single males on the night which we promptly excluded and proceeded to some good fun. You can look back and say you've been, know what to expect should you ever reconsider, or chalk it down to experience and maybe have a chuckle in the future about it. Whatever you do, don't let it get in the way of fun times, they are too precious. Keep enjoying life's little pleasures and each other Peter
My man and I have been to Arrows on a number of occasions, both on couples night (where it has been closed or only a couple of couples have turned up) or early hours on a friday, sat or sun morning.
Me and my man like to play and have fun even if that means being a tease, but yes we agree with you on being made to feel uncomfortable.
We feel like the pied pipers of the sex club lol normally we have about 20 following, or we would be making out and being naughty watching a movie in the lounge area and have about 10 men surround us none wearing condoms and haveing a wank whilst their penis is pointed in our direction, quite a few times i have told them to move and on most occasions they do and when they dont we just get up and say you wouldnt move now you have ruined it for the rest of them and we go into a closed locked room.
Even when we are in the rooms w ehave them continually knocking on the door and in the end you have to yell fuck off for them to go away.
the last few times we have been very quiet with only about 6-7 men in where normally there is about 30 since the shooting, having been back for about a month so maybe a trip is warranted soon.
Us4uu4us
you get them knocking on the door, seriously. gee wiz some people dont know how to take a hint. It make it difficult for us hostest one who give people space if they dont want the extra attention.
i think some of these guys are the no means yes kinda guys, but they wouldnt dare behave like that with their partner (if they have one).
sad, just sad
We take a different approach to some with regards to Aarrows and would say that the very behaviours outlined in this thread are what makes Aarrows a fun place for those that are prepared or are comfortable in a group setting.
It is NOT a place for couples looking for couples or ladies, but it is a place for exhibitionists, voyeurs and those that enjoy overt sexuality and an outright sleazy atmosphere (we call it an erotically sleazy place). We openly enjoy the guys following, Sheba loving the subtle yet obvious excitement generated in the guys who see a female as it is a genuine rarity in the place. We love watching and listening to those enjoying their fun, or courting for fun, be that with us as a couple or Sheba alone. We love it all and have found the place ideal as a means of finding no string, no name, pure unadulterated yet lustful sexual times.
We have also found it quite safe as Sheba will often go with a guy or guys to the rooms and have some fun, occasionally in the barred rooms, sometimes open and sometimes locked. Never has she felt unsafe in any way and has often found the behaviour at Aarrows better than that experienced at a number of parties we had frequented.
We have visited the couples room and had some fun behind the closed doors, but generally our fun was outside in the open rooms as we so enjoy the sounds and smells and so do not want to be locked off from that.
We have found Aarows more to our liking that other Sydney swing venues where we have felt unwelcome or intimidated whilst at Aarows we do not judge and they do not judge us. Out kind of place and atmosphere and we enjoy it greatly, and it is what we do miss now being so far west.
However that is us, and anyone who attends believing that it is a couples venue will be disappointed as it is not, it is primarily a male/bi sex on site venue that allows couples. Sadly the place has been 'advertised' as couples but it is not and unfortunately people such at the OP find out the hard way that the picture pushed is not of their liking. This is not criticism of the OP or the place as generally the 'advertising' we see regarding the place being couples oriented if not pushed by the business but 'word of mouth' which of course is tainted by one's own preferences (we have PM'd many telling exactly as we find it, but with large warnings).
To the OP, sorry to read of your experience and obviously as you were to find Aarows is not for you, but you were not to know at the time and we do hope that you continue to look for that atmosphere or environment that 'floats your boat'. Best of luck.
Shell and Gaz
very true shebagazz. but there still need to be a modate amount of decorum. like giving a little space. I once had a bloke just follow me around like a shadow. I showed no interest in him and at one point I told him that he wasnt my type. then when i was playing with someone a cock appeared in front of me. it was his. now ive already told him i wasnt interested, if he liked me he could have just watched.
No, it wasnt about me, it was all about him (in his mind anyway) so I got up, swaped numbrs with the tgirl and left.
and they have the couples room for couples only so people can basicly swing in a neutral location. some girls like to have large groups of onlookers. Ive been there and been one. ive even been invited to play/participate. But just because the participants are playing with multiple partners doesnt mean they want to play with you. And what rite do you have to push yourself on them if thats the case. Should that be the case, sit back and enjoy the show or move on.
sorry if that reads as being directed at shebagazz, I am directing it the conversation on the forum. I just want to say I agree with shebagazz.
cheers
I've also had the men following scenario, middle aged asian dude just wouldn't take no for an answer. Started playing with someone and next think you know I hear someone lubing themselves up behind me lol its like if you come anywhere near me you'll regret it. He then left..... Its not just couples that have problems in places such as these.
Some of the problems with the men in towels walking the aisles is that its such a large place. I must admit if I go I generally walk the two floors in the first instance, just to see whats around and is happening. Then wander back to whatever or whoever I thought was interesting and see what transpires.
yes its advertised as a bi/gay venue but the also has a swingers night. saturday night male and female couples only. 9 until late.
i think it is better used as a meet and greet type of place if you like that sort of venue. get a group of people together and go there.
for what it is i think it serves its purpose. it just doesnt serve us with what were looking for
We have been to aarows quiet a few times and have done a number of shows there and could not say that we have had any problems as have found all the guys respectful and yes they do follow the females around but they do stand their distance and when wanting to play you have to encourage them and when the female wants a rest there is no rude or unwanted remarks and got to say that aarows is a lot cleaner now then it use to be then. it was years ago and at its old venue. Have seen so many clubs come and go and most other clubs we have come across the people there are judgemental. Its not everyone's cup of tea
Yep we hav heard the same thing its a shame because its closee for us but I supose each to there own we prefer the couples club and if u are ever heading there please give us the heads up lusciouscouple
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