Issues with couples play

over the last year , we have been enjoying swinging together and have met with many wonderful people , clubs and parties have been absolutely fantastic, dogging has been fun though , as is the nature of dogging , it has been hit and miss , the one problem we are finding is with couples meets , just two couples, be it at ours , theirs or in a hotel room, the experience has not been what it really should of  been,  we are finding more and more that one of us  is missing out because one half has jealousy issues or one  half is much more interested in watching their  partner play , can't get it up or keep it up or cums within minutes .  Is this something happening all over or have we just been unlucky ?  and to be honest , if one is having a problem  then why involve another couple , if both are unwilling/unable to play , why not invite a single , this way no one is left out or feeling bitter ,, to be honest  it has reached the point where we are becoming reluctant to meet with anyone outside of a group setting as we feel we are meeting under false pretexts   Are many other couples coming across , or experienced this situation 

we have had the same issues, that is why we only go dogging now... It can be hit or miss but we have had fun without the hassle of what you wrote about.

i'm rather surprised that so few people have come across these issues ,, yes we are much prefering the dogging , club and party aspect to the lifestyle because as you say , less hassle 

we have had similar problems and some  we are also gettingtir3d of these site's 

If only  I there was an easier way 

we still love it here but wish people were more upfront with what they want and are able to do 

Could not agree more with your question Heavensaint! If only you guys were around when we lived in Camden.........

xo

Yes. Have realised how difficult it is to even meet a couple who want to play as a couple with a couple! Lots of pretenders and one male couples out there! Almost 12 months and the horizon still looks bare, lol.