Looking to find like minded people for online fun. If this leads to fun "in the flesh" then that would be good too. I am a DTE, intelligent Aussie guy with GSOH. Not tall, solid build, shaved head. Recently got my first tatt at the age of 50 and looking forward to the next one! Ladies or couples that would like to exchange naughty emails, pics or sexts please get in touch. Happy to answer any questions you have and send you a face pic if required.
Hope to hear from you soon!
Hi jr, you may be really swimming uphill with this one. As a married man with a single profile, that will cut out a large percentage of couples and single women. Having no photos and pretty much no information on your profile does not help. Single guys outnumber couples and single women by a massive margin so competition is fierce. Your profile needs to stand out and make an impression. Try dropping into a local chatroom and introducing yourself, and making yourself known. Personally, I pick ALL my contacts from the chatroom, so its always a good idea to make friends and talk to a lot of people, to get your personality across, every little bit helps
mate, looks like the self appointed twomorals and the lolling whale found you really really quickly. Ignore them, they are good at that - ignorance that is and good luck in your search.
While I am all for a spirited discussion..... Name calling and or abuse is NOT tolerated here Mark. As one of those who you consider of a lesser intelligence than your educated self, It is very easy to see who you are making derogatory comments about... this is not acceptable....
Thank you.
may have been an inappropriate response but also offered encouragement. Not all of us think the same way and I am not really happy to stand by and see a guy castigated for his thinking/behaviour. Some people call that bullying. I say, whatever blows your hair back (without harming someone). Personally I think its about time some of the self appointed twomorals etc exercised a little self discipline and bite their tongues instead of haranguing people who don't conform to their own ideology.
Mark ,,,,,,,would you care to point out exactly where the o.p was bullied ??? all looked like good advice to me ,,,much the same as the advice given to me when I first signed on, I think, perhaps, it's time to wind your neck in and look after yourself without worrying what others may or may not be doing
This is about helping a member who asked, not about what you think or don't think... The OP asked for advice and that's what he received.
If you want to start your own thread Mark, please do so while adhering to the rules you agreed to upon joining.
Thank you
Jazz
Site Moderator
Hi Jazz
As a long standing member of this site, I do agree with Mark.
Sometimes responses by some couples (and please note I say "some") to singles is always patronizing and holier than thou. That too can be construed as being offensive. I would like to see the site moderators also exercise "site etiquette" on couples that habitually harangue and showdown singles who have as much right to voice their thoughts, as couples and ladies.
Just my two cents worth !
Cheers
Surdy
Hey guys. Firstly, thanks Mark. I appreciate your support. Have to say though that I really didn't take offence to the advice that was offered. I take the point re my profile. I will do some work on it but I can't post a face pic and dick shots weren't getting me anywhere. That's why I said I would be happy to send a face pic on request. Anyways, apologies that my post stirred up a hornet's nest.
Hey Surdy,
I agree some 'couples' can be very rude, I don't think its acceptable by anyone to be rude or offensive.... in saying that, I have a level of understanding for those couples who are constantly bombarded by single people...note ive said people and not males.... when it clearly states they are looking for couples only.
Please also know that from a moderator's point of view, I take any complaints made by anyone regarding abuse seriously. As does the entire admin team.... So if you are seeing abuse please don't hesitate to contact any of them team.
I just don't see the need for being rude to anyone, people have the right to say No without abuse, singles or couples.
Thanks for the post...
jr, how about body shots or do you have tatts etc, but you are right too many dick shots dont work. there are some people on here who prefer married men due to the excitement of the illicit. somewhere on here in one of the resent posts shows the couples/men/women ratio worth a look to see what your up against.
try getting into the rooms and chat without becoming a seagull. politeness and honesty go a long way.
yes, can definately put up photos without dick or faces in them, a good body shot is always welcome - just blur your face and/or any distinguishing marks.
As with your profile, witty and amusing remarks will draw a reader in, having little to no information gives no base for interest. You need to bait the trap
I want to get my thoughts on here and hopefully not slammed as being a 'Pro Blogger'
It seems another member has done the hard yards and taken a quick snap of the site (on another post).
Number of single men: 84,731
Number of single women: 6,852
Number of couples: 28,780
Ok I will just take a stab at this but it seems as a single male (married or single), the odds are not in your favour. It is hard enough just to find a single female to join us.
As much as having a profile with tasteful pictures (something else than dick shots) and a good description helps you stand out from the masses, not sure there is any great deal benefit. But I am sure single guys can make comment in regard to this.
Jazz has already alluded to this, single guys tend to harass couples whether they are looking for single guys or not. Now we never ostracise single guys from Meet and Greets (especially the one we organised) nor do we discourage them from chatting to us. But when you are on the receiving end of some pretty distasteful comments (in chat whisper) well I am sure you will see it from our point of view. When this is a common occurrence, well does tend to put you off meeting single guys. On the other hand, there are some single guys on here that Mrs Bay would love to meet, simply because they are respective and there lies the key. There is one particular single guy on here that does very well on here, perhaps you can ask him for advice, he does offer an advice service on this site.
A persons character goes a long way with us, it gets your foot in the door.
The Bays
Quote by jr1212 Thanks Haidee. Unfortunately you need to have a good body to put up good body shots :-)
lol jr1212, were not supermodels on here. everybody is a different size and shape. some big some skinny , short and tall now combine those together and makemore combinations. doesnt matter if you look like ken and barbie ( luckily i dont) or you look like dorothy the dinosaw or the north end of a southbound cow. people will want you for more than looks, trust me on that. best part of anybody weve met is the fact they can hold a conversation, arnt rude and the biggest one is they dont lie. these outweigh bodies.
Well said surdy. This site, and the Forums are for people to share ideas, meet up and learn. If a person wants to engage in (legal) behaviour with any other consenting adult(s), they should be allowed to follow their passion. Those who disagree with other members' choices should just keep quiet and not meet up with them - simple.
Just wondering how many single males would get hate mail for saying no to a couple?? i would wager it wouldn't be many.
So for the single guys to be in here saying how bad it is for them maybe they should spare a thought for the couples that don't want to be harassed by single men..now i know its not all of you but its damn sure a lot of you that are guilty of this. This could all be avoided if people would read profiles. but no as soon as you guys see tits most of you seem to lose the plot. I hope this doesn't seem like single bashing because that isn't my aim
Sometimes i get the feeling that you guy's think that our wives are here for you to get an easy root because they are super horny or lonely wives and that couldn't be further from the truth. I hope this doesn't seem like single bashing because that isn't my aim you guys have you place here too i know there are a few couples that just look for single guys, I just want to try and get across to you guys how frustrating it is sometimes. I have spoken to few single guys who i would say are really nice and incredibly respectful and i think those guys are the ones who do the best out of all the single guys
We got into this to take a journey together and to swing with other couples and im sorry if that offends some of you single guys but that is the way we feel.
Now to the OP, Mate i wish you all the best and i hope you find what you are looking for but just know that it isnt easy and you will up against some fierce competition, Nothing like a challenge though right?? If i were you i would do some work on my profile and be as open and honest as you can about everything.
As for Mark, i think you need to take a chill pill mate. I don't know how you expect to make friends on here when all i see in your post is you having a go at people. try being friendly and see how you go then...i bet things will go better for you..
I see in one of your posts up there that no one gets hurt...what about you wife if she was to ever find out?? I would think she would be hurt. and im just pointing that out but im sure you already know
As a long standing member!!.......sorry I have nothing...just wanted to say that :happy:
Well it seems we have diverted off the subject, so I will go with that.
This is like watching "The Muppet Show" with Statler and Waldorf having a slanging match.
Well in my opinion, Surdy I only partially agree with you!
In my opinion having a 'Site etiquette' will be too hard to police. The mod are volunteers, so I am sure they don't want to spend more time breaking up squabbles. There is an 'Acceptable Use Policy' on which talks about no abusive, aggressive, hateful or racist behaviour towards fellow members. Just because I keep popping up in post doesn't mean I am harassing you, I am just very bored and I use these forums as a bit of time out from the screaming kids. Now I am sure no one can blamed me for that.
Williek, I agree with you 100%, that's good advice, not that you needed my approval.
Mark_1960, exercising a little self discipline and bite ones tongue instead of haranguing people who don't conform to my ideology is good advice. Perhaps another one I like to suggest.... not to be patronising towards other members. I'm guilty of doing that from time to time, but they really did deserve it :sparring:
jr1212, not sure I can offer you any advice, other than my wife and I have been swingers for almost 8 years and have met lots of people from here and other sites. I can only make suggestions what we would look for in single guys. Furthermore, I can only speculate that the majority of couples are looking for single guys and not married guys, but hey I could be wrong. The older you get the pickings become slimmer; I did see statistics somewhere. Given that you are married, the only suggestion I have is bring your wife into the lifestyle, but you probably have already exhausted that avenue.
Finally, we all have different opinions, values and beliefs, so criticising someone just because it doesn't conform to yours just means you are a Muppet.
The Bays
We agree that there sometimes is some strong "anti single male" sentiment thrown around by couples, though it is worth noting that more often than not the trigger for this is some silly behaviour by a single male.
Such as asking to come along to a dogging session... when it already happened yesterday.
Or responding to an ad that says "must be under 40"... and the respondent is 55.
Or responding to an ad that says "seeking a female for a threesome"... and the respondent is male.
Or complaining that it's so hard to get laid... but the person has no photos, no written profile, no effort to market themselves.
In fact we would suggest that 90% of the angst directed at single men is due to the seeming inability of a small but highly visible minority to read and respect what others have written in their ad or profile, or to understand that you may still need to make an effort to charm and woo a lady. This isn't a free brothel!
Take this very thread for example. The OP opens with quite a nice post, and a subject line "Why is it so hard?". Some people offer advice to help him market himself. All good. Everyone's happy. And then a silly single male (single on this site at least) fails to read or understand what was said and starts getting stuck into those who were being helpful, and accuses them of "castigating" the OP when they did no such thing.
As for the differences of opinion on cheating - yes, you could argue that others here don't need to stick their nose in to your business. But given that cheating is the complete antithesis of swinging, and this site is [u:f85c0a228a]Swingers[/u:f85c0a228a] Heaven, it's probably not surprising that cheaters cop some flak here. Perhaps they would be better off taking their "business" to a site like Ashley Madison that is set up specifically for cheaters.
jr i was just looking at your new profile content, very well done. full of what you want and honest. just a body pic would be the last thing as seeing is believing. for us to meet another couple without pics is near on impossible. they really have to work hard and be ultra interesting to us. also remember your in a section of this community that is over supplied around the 4 or 5 to one compared to couples and probably 50 to 1 with single females.
Have moved this, to the General Discussion, area, as its changed - its.. theme a touch.
the op is welcome to add a new Ad to Lets meet up. :)
In reply to one thing and on top of what Jazz as said. Moderators, do a lot of work behind the scenes. So you as a member doesnt see whats happening, what seems like nothing. Normally isnt the truth.
wish you luck.
Thanks for everyone's input. Particular thanks to Mrtwonewbies for the feedback. Would love to put a pic of some description up but find it really hard to do on the Ipad which is all I have access to this site from. Anyways I guess I will work something out. Wish me luck!!!
Quote by jr1212 Thanks for everyone's input. Particular thanks to Mrtwonewbies for the feedback. Would love to put a pic of some description up but find it really hard to do on the Ipad which is all I have access to this site from. Anyways I guess I will work something out. Wish me luck!!!
If you use the iPad browser, you can no drama. So I'm told.
Things are only as hard as you make them. Of course we have all seen the stats and posts but I can assure you that it can be used to your benefit. With some persistence and also a thoughtful approach you can stand out from the crowd.
I can also say that I find the challenge a lot of fun and mentally stimulating. After all the brain is the largest sex organ. I know I need it to be as sorry I don't have much else to offer ;)
Have fun ... Be polite ... Have a point of difference ... Appeal to all the senses ... And be realistic ... Hey even some people are out of my league.
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It seems another member has done the hard yards and taken a quick snap of the site (on another post).
Number of single men: 84,731
Number of single women: 6,852
Number of couples: 28,780
Ok I will just take a stab at this but it seems as a single male (married or single), the odds are not in your favour. It is hard enough just to find a single female to join us.
As much as having a profile with tasteful pictures (something else than dick shots) and a good description helps you stand out from the masses, not sure there is any great deal benefit. But I am sure single guys can make comment in regard to this.
Jazz has already alluded to this, single guys tend to harass couples whether they are looking for single guys or not. Now we never ostracise single guys from Meet and Greets (especially the one we organised) nor do we discourage them from chatting to us. But when you are on the receiving end of some pretty distasteful comments (in chat whisper) well I am sure you will see it from our point of view. When this is a common occurrence, well does tend to put you off meeting single guys. On the other hand, there are some single guys on here that Mrs Bay would love to meet, simply because they are respective and there lies the key. There is one particular single guy on here that does very well on here, perhaps you can ask him for advice, he does offer an advice service on this site.
A persons character goes a long way with us, it gets your foot in the door.
The Bays
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