Hello there, (in response, to above comments), I've been involved, in the swing scene, since Mar 84, and the (bi) scene then, was (very) 'fringe", and to a degree, the swing scene in general, and quite, "in the shadows",( and even, to some extent), "ladies enjoying the company, of other ladies", but noticeably, (not) so much now, to where I feel it's getting a grudging ? acceptance, now much more acceptable, and in a wider circle, among the ladies, (especially), ;-).Have attended "bi inclined parties, for some years, found watching/ viewing male to male play arousing, (as much as lady to lady), with "participation" rates especially high. Have (yet), to "enjoy a little, "role reversal", and try pegging, but on 'the bucket list', ;-)).