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Someone else stated earlier - well this is a sex site.
That is true. It is a sex site. Not a dating site. Not even a make friends site. It is purely a recreational, sport fucking, sex site.

Sweet theory.... i was on a site for billionaires the other day now im just waiting for the cash to roll in......
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Someone else stated earlier - well this is a sex site.
That is true. It is a sex site. Not a dating site. Not even a make friends site. It is purely a recreational, sport fucking, sex site.

ROFL you are joking right ?? or are you just trying to get into the elite simply stupid mens group
This post shows that you simply have no idea of what the site is about or what people are looking for
YES its a swingers site to help others find like minded people to meet , chat with or anything they want in fact nothing saying they have to fuck every one they meet
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Well, for a start, while I know there are a lot of F******s here, please do not tar all us solo males with the same brush. It really makes my blood boil to be considered a second rate shitbag as I am mature, have life experience and am looking for an ongoing lover (female or couple) of around my age group (ie if you are under 45 or so .... just do not bother!!!!). It is disappointing that, although I have been lucky enough to meet both singles and couples in person and on line, the automatic assumption of most seems to be that, as a solo male, the only thing I deserve is to be written off .... And yes, I have a partner, she does not play and does not know. I am upfront about this (as anyone should be) to allow potential partners to make their own judgments. Added to this, I know that some do not want the potential complications, have their own moral code and have their own criteria for potential play mates. I may be an exception but I also need some sort of connection, just not the physical. Personally, if you cannot hold a conversation or enjoy some of the warmth and connection sexual activity promotes, well, just do not bother no matter how physically attractive you may be. This is something which is implied in many couple's profiles and some of us ( especially women) do not want to be considered as trophies. Or am I being naive and in the wrong place???? Maybe. Do not brand us all as second rate citizens, but please make a reasonable judgement so long as our approach is not just a " Wanna F****? ...." OK, rant over and I find that there are lots of sexy people here who are happy to chat or accept a TY or compliment if they are on cam and I enjoy watching and I let them know. Cheers, John5
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you tell me here,s his other post the term prawn really tells how he see's people on but call them a prawn says more about him than them here's his other post from another thread , i am sure was in the wrong thread , this is the are men simply stupid thread and this says it all.. Yes! Why sit in the dark with your cam on? Why? I've seen cams for sale for $11. No excuse - oh my cam is broken so it is so dark. Buy a new one then. And why not show your face? I don't care what the body looks like. Until I see her face I will not meet. Lot of prawns out there. So have some guts and show your face on cam with lighting! Don't bullshit about female security or anything like that. I do not watch a cam no matter what if I can't see her face. I wish moderators would toss people out for poor cam quality.
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well, I am tending to go with "yes" for my answer to the OP. The last 3 messages I have gotten (not PMs, byt actual messages) have been from single guys wanting to meet up for NSA. Can they not even read two lines? My first lines states: Some quick stuff right up the top so you don't have to scroll far. The second oline says: Anyone looking for NSA, please keep looking, I'm all about the strings. Can it be any clearer? Thank you to the guys who DO read profiles and only contact those that want them. Unfortunately these are the respectufl guys that I wouldn't mind meeting sometimes
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I'd say a high percentage would be.. on here anyway. Although social awkwardness can easily be mistaken for stupidity. It's amusing that alot of the women on here trot around like they have all the power just because they have a pussy & tits lol .. getting all offended on a sex site.. lol
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Social awkwardness not really, its the odds on all these sites you get 1 in 20 genuine guys, who treat people with the respect they deserve and the rest are simply dickheads who do not have a clue about what the site is about and think that every female with straight tendencies is going to oblige. I make no apoligies in that I am one of the few that put the truth on their profile and am therefore considered a cheat by a lot of people and so be it no harm done you have read my all I expect the same in return, but some of what I call man specs that are required by some ladies or couples out there are plain ridiculous how many guys actually fit the bill. Remember most guys in their teenage years, hear the words oh god or OMG yelled into their heads when they are incredibly narcissistic so guess what even though they could be crap in bed they tend to have this belief for the rest of their life that they are... you get the picture.
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I'd say a high percentage would be.. on here anyway. Although social awkwardness can easily be mistaken for stupidity.
It's amusing that alot of the women on here trot around like they have all the power just because they have a pussy & tits lol .. getting all offended on a sex site.. lol

Social awkwardness and even stupidity can often be overcome with good manners. We receive messages and whispers from guys with poor literacy and communication skills who still manage to be polite when asking questions. Although our profile states quite clearly that we are seeking the company of other couples and women we don't mind chatting to guys as well.
Women indeed do have the power in this site as they are the most sought after contact. They are in the minority, being outnumbered by more than 12 to 1 by solo males and about 4 to 1 by couples.
A common complaint throughout this and similar posts by women and couples concerns the way in which many guys frame their communications. Women in here are not unpaid sex workers and are quite entitled to take offence when subjected to abrupt rudeness. "How many cocks does Mrs Muffins take at a party and does she like it in the arse?" is not a good opening enquiry! "I'm travelling through your town on Thursday and am keen on a spa, massage and head job. Where do you live?", also causes disappointment.
"Hi, I'm young, fit and hung with a thick 8 inch, cut cock", also fails to impress and will usually receive the reply from Ms Muffins of, "Many thanks for your enquiry and offer of sex but I really prefer well hung men and you sound a bit inadequate for my needs." Answering with a polite no thank you invariably leads to a barrage of messages claiming that the correspondent is a total stud muffin and will provide madam with endless orgasms and the best sex of her life if she will only give him a chance to prove himself when Mr Muffins is not watching.
Although Swinger's Heaven is a social site for people who may wish to liaise or meet for sexually related fun we do not regard it as a 'sex site' where everyone is seeking quick hook-ups. To assume so will quickly lead to frustration and disappointment from repeated knock backs and the odd abrupt reply.
The most successful single guys we encounter online, in the Chat Room and at events are those who are polite, can hold a conversation, know how to flirt in a subtle manner and who have a genuine respect for the women who they wish to play with. Gaining the trust of male partners can also be a bonus. Regarding female swingers as unpaid sex workers almost guarantees failure.
It is a shame that the art of socialising and conversing seems to have been lost or never acquired by so many of our younger males.
Regards,
Muffins
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Quote by Muffins
I'd say a high percentage would be.. on here anyway. Although social awkwardness can easily be mistaken for stupidity.
It's amusing that alot of the women on here trot around like they have all the power just because they have a pussy & tits lol .. getting all offended on a sex site.. lol

Social awkwardness and even stupidity can often be overcome with good manners. We receive messages and whispers from guys with poor literacy and communication skills who still manage to be polite when asking questions. Although our profile states quite clearly that we are seeking the company of other couples and women we don't mind chatting to guys as well.
Women indeed do have the power in this site as they are the most sought after contact. They are in the minority, being outnumbered by more than 12 to 1 by solo males and about 4 to 1 by couples.
A common complaint throughout this and similar posts by women and couples concerns the way in which many guys frame their communications. Women in here are not unpaid sex workers and are quite entitled to take offence when subjected to abrupt rudeness. "How many cocks does Mrs Muffins take at a party and does she like it in the arse?" is not a good opening enquiry! "I'm travelling through your town on Thursday and am keen on a spa, massage and head job. Where do you live?", also causes disappointment.
"Hi, I'm young, fit and hung with a thick 8 inch, cut cock", also fails to impress and will usually receive the reply from Ms Muffins of, "Many thanks for your enquiry and offer of sex but I really prefer well hung men and you sound a bit inadequate for my needs." Answering with a polite no thank you invariably leads to a barrage of messages claiming that the correspondent is a total stud muffin and will provide madam with endless orgasms and the best sex of her life if she will only give him a chance to prove himself when Mr Muffins is not watching.
Although Swinger's Heaven is a social site for people who may wish to liaise or meet for sexually related fun we do not regard it as a 'sex site' where everyone is seeking quick hook-ups. To assume so will quickly lead to frustration and disappointment from repeated knock backs and the odd abrupt reply.
The most successful single guys we encounter online, in the Chat Room and at events are those who are polite, can hold a conversation, know how to flirt in a subtle manner and who have a genuine respect for the women who they wish to play with. Gaining the trust of male partners can also be a bonus. Regarding female swingers as unpaid sex workers almost guarantees failure.
It is a shame that the art of socialising and conversing seems to have been lost or never acquired by so many of our younger males.
Regards,
Muffins
We as humans have to go against all built in anamilistic instincts, We have been forced to live in environments we were not designed for, some adapt well, some don't.
Some never learned basic social skills required for this always changing modern age we live in. Even in my lifetime, we have gone from writing love letters & phone calls to instant messaging & selfies, what was shown on TV back then & what is shown now is completely different, men and women are objectified everywhere you look. These days life has all the ingredients for breeding some very messed up people, for example:
Take "billy", he grew up in a single parent family, his only memories of his father were when he was high on ice & beating up his mother. The kids at school picked on him because of his family so he became a bit of a loner, mostly staying home out of school hours playing his xbox & watching TV, Jersey shore is one of his favourite shows,he also studied alot & was in the top 3 in his classes .
Billy starts to feel attracted to girls, he is too scared to talk to the girls at school because they all call him poor, drug dad boy.. etc. So billy starts masturbating to porn, billy does this till he is 18 years old, soon as he started masturbating to porn, the desire to court girls was lost as he could get the same result from 10mins of googling, as a result he never really learned how to chat up women, in his eyes they have become mere sexual objects.
Billy is now a man, he has a job & is out in the big bad world, billy finds swingersheaven & sees all the profiles with pictures of sexy women with cocks in their mouths etc, based on his "experience" these girls are horny sluts good to go & up for anything, he reads 2 lines of their profile blog, assumes its all bullshit then his eyes just go back up to the pictures of boobs & dicks in asses, Billy cant help himself & fires off a heart felt message:
"Hi there baby, your pictures make me so hard, im young fit with a big dick, message me and we will hook up for some awesome sex"
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yes Cactus, and it is the 'Billys' of this world that need to get a clue and get clued in if he wants to get laid. He is the epitome of the reason the solo guys get such a hard time on these sites. And, BTW, this is NOT a sex site, but a Swingers site, completely different thing - try checking out the info and FAQ's that you can see on the left hand side of your screen
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here is an example of a great message a picture of a dick with mmm wanna ride i mean WTF . why would i bother. they obviously havnt been reading profiles or are too stupid to take notice to us you have a capital L on your forehead mrs two
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Quote by twonewbies
here is an example of a great message
a picture of a dick with mmm wanna ride
i mean WTF . why would i bother. they obviously havnt been reading profiles or are too stupid to take notice
to us you have a capital L on your forehead
mrs two

they get even worse like "im free today if you want to catch up for sex" no pic, no profile info, no previous contact, etc
Guys need to remember a few simple things wen trying to hook up with a couple,
Couples are never as desperate for a root as a single guy,,,ever!
just because a couple is online does not mean they are desperate for a root there and then.
Guys you actually need to make an effort to separate you from the literally hundreds of other desperadoes out there.
read the couple profile are you a match ?
make sure you have decent clear pics that you are not afraid to show and a profile that clearly shows what you are looking for.
oh and desperation for sex from a male is not a turn on
oddly it can be from a woman though
Orgasminator
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artema, preaching to the converted here. If they aren't readng profiles, they also aren't reading forums. We are just using this as an outlet to bitch to each other
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artema, preaching to the converted here. If they aren't readng profiles, they also aren't reading forums. We are just using this as an outlet to bitch to each other

Haidee this is one of the very few posts on this topic that makes sense, people are not going to change just build a bridge and get over it! There are so many whiners, if it isn't working move on that simple, if you look on the bottom right hand side of a profile it gives you the option to "Report a profile", if someone has sent you something that breaches the Site rules report the incident. You will have all the evidence they need, forward it on to the appropriate site representative or lift up one finger and hit DELETE not that hard.
I think the principals of the site is to meet like minded people and have fun, we are all different that's what makes the world interesting, you don't have to acknowledge Dick Heads be them male or female. passionkiss
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yes Cactus, and it is the 'Billys' of this world that need to get a clue and get clued in if he wants to get laid. He is the epitome of the reason the solo guys get such a hard time on these sites. And, BTW, this is NOT a sex site, but a Swingers site, completely different thing - try checking out the info and FAQ's that you can see on the left hand side of your screen

The problem is, it's just not that easy for the "billy's", some will learn, some won't & end up hating women, some are just truly assholes.
I hope people don't judge someones personality based on what they type here, i probably come accross as a real dick head. I type as if its a bunch of mates having a yarn, im not going to pretend to be some sort of old fashioned educated gentleman, sometimes i'm also drunk.. It is what it is lol
I'm not gonna argue, but swinging to me = sex, im not here to take someone out for a cup of tea.. every single meet, thats what non swinging freinds are for. Ofcourse frendship is involved though.. in no way i think this is a "hey, meet me down the park & let me come on your face SHUTUP I DONT WANT TO KNOW YOUR NAME" site.
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but swinging to me = sex

Largely true, except sex isn't just getting naked and fucking. You still have to work to turn somebody on, and that will often mean a bit of flirting before getting naked and fucking. That's the part that 99% of guys seem to overlook - the flirting - and instead they jump straight to "let's fuck".
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but swinging to me = sex

Largely true, except sex isn't just getting naked and fucking. You still have to work to turn somebody on, and that will often mean a bit of flirting before getting naked and fucking. That's the part that 99% of guys seem to overlook - the flirting - and instead they jump straight to "let's fuck".
.. That goes without saying
Also, 99%.. wow thats high rolleyes
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No, MEN aren't stupid, just think of where the world would be without their skills and knowledge! Medical advances, Engineering masterpieces, Contributions to the arts etc etc etc. Shane is, in my opinion, under the thumb. He has been convinced by women that males are inferior. He probably is! But women like to dominate and control and the most numerous group of humans that are available for this are men. Having a different anatomy between your legs has nothing to do with being stupid or otherwise. Shane, it is what is in your head, you know, it's called a brain! I suggest you open your eyes to the real world, look around, you won't have to look far for the great things men have done throughout history.

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well this is a sex room honey

You don't even know how wrong you are... or why you are wrong, for that matter.

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There are a certain number of boys on this site, and I'm sure many other sites as well, who assume that a swingers site is for single men to bang desperate housewives who's husbands can't satisfy them. Any woman on the site must be a sex starved nympho who can't get any, and the slightest hint of interest will cause dropped panties and open legs. Or5 at least that seems the case from my point of view.


A couple of months after being on the site, I changed my profile slightly. About 2/3 of the way down, I put in a sentence, basicaly saying that if they got that far, then to look my up in the chatroom, say a specific sentence and they would get laid, no questions asked. Do you think even one guy got that far? I left it there for a good six months, and with all the hitting on and 'wanna fucks?' from the twits in the chatrooms, do you think even one bothered to read my profile, even after me telling them there was a hidden surprise in there if they looked?

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How many Stupid men have died to keep this country safe for women to live in? Remember, read the question before you answer! I give the women a clue, the answer can be expressed as a number.

Orgasminator
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oliverob, obviously you haven't read any of the post. The stupid men who died keeping the country safe, are not the same stupid men  we are talking about. The ones we are talking about are still alive, and making it difficult for the decent men on this site to get laid.

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oliverob, obviously you haven't read any of the post. The stupid men who died keeping the country safe, are not the same stupid men  we are talking about. The ones we are talking about are still alive, and making it difficult for the decent men on this site to get laid.

Well said Haidee.

Oliverob's posts are certainly reflective of a person who probably should reconsider being a member and his motivations for being here. Certainly triggered a "danger Will Robinson danger" response form me. smile


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Here is an extract from an article I read recently which makes interesting reading. Thought I would share it with friends here:

"Men and women are two totally different creatures.  They interact
with thoughts and emotions in a much different way, they express
themselves differently, and they are biologically predisposed to certain
behaviours and tendency due to the evolution of their bodies. 

For example, women are naturally more compassionate, sensitive, and
nurturing because they evolved biology to be the caregiver of the
children. Men are naturally more competitive and aggressive because
their brains are hardwired to compete with other males for territory,
resources, and reproductive rights.  Females bodies produce estrogen,
and males produce testosterone.

Women are more right-brained, and are more prone to live from a realm
of emotion.  Men are more left-brained, and more prone to live from a
realm of thought.

Because of how different male and females are on mental, physical,
and spiritual levels, there is a lot that gets misunderstood about each
gender.  Women get classified as being “crazy”, and men get classified
as being “stupid”.

Men are not stupid, they are just different creatures because they evolved
in ways that are predisposed to rational thought and primal survival.
 Women are not crazy, they are simply predisposed to emotional
expression, being sensitive, and having a home fit to raise offspring.

And when we see males act in ways that are “stupid”, or
women act in ways that are “crazy” in life, we need to be more
willing to take a look at what is actually happening at biological,
emotional, and spiritual levels.  There is no sense in demonizing one
another for things we cannot change about ourselves, or to biological
predispositions we have to certain types of expression.

We are different creatures, and the goal needs to be to reach a middle
ground and understand one another.  Men and women CAN get along, and
true harmony in relationships can only happen when we look beneath the
surface of our reactions, ask questions to one another, and give each
other full permission to be true to how we think and feel without
classifying one another as being crazy or stupid."

So GUYS, don't harass or frustrate women on these kind of sites. Approach then only if permitted to or else simply stay away. Remember, you are bringing disrepute to others in your own male fraternity by such stupid acts.

My thoughts: Only stupid men feel threatened by smart women!


Sexlightened
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Just as much as some women are stupid

Orgasminator
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sydneystorm, the OP is referring to a specific problem with a lot of guys on this site and other 'dating' sites. It isn't really applicable to women

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Ok....this thread appears to address the problem with single fellas not reading profiles and being inappropriate.

True, some of the single fellas are morons, however the amount of couples who continually harass me is beyond a joke.

My profile does not seek couples although I get hammered constantly by the fella of the couple to come join his wife in a "sexy fun time".  Really?  for who??  Certainly not me.  lol

I find this inappropriate and moronic.  Clearly couples don't read profiles either!

So...lets not bash the poor single fellas....morons come in all shapes and sizes on here.....and sometimes in 2's.

Olivia.


Orgasminator
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Olivia, you may find that the female half of the couple has no clue what her partner is doing. If you do decide to meet, she may suddenly be unavailable, but of course the male half can make it *rolleyes* been there, escaped that!. But yes, sometimes couples can be just as bad as single guys, and I'm sure there are single girls out there being a pain the arse too. The majority are the dreaded solo guys though, unfortunately


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G'day all

Geez everyone - we must be "doing it wrong"

We've found very few single blokes have any real idea of 'seducing' a sexually competant woman - too many seem to want a qwik fuk without doing anything to justify their existence in the playpen.  That's why we prefer couples

We insist on a meet 'n greet over a meal with the new couple before contemplating any play time, during which time we have a serious discussion about previous sexual partners, habits and use of protection, etc
Then on agreed play nights, we will have dinner 4 or 6 of us that is, with sexy conversation etc before meandering off to a playpen

Couples may move around thru the night between partners, & if there's 3 couples there's often 2 x 3-somes going sometime during the night
We also socialise with our playmates till they become 'friends with benefits' too

Makes for some fab times  happy.gif

P

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Spoil it for the rest of us.