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ms_twiddletwat
Over 90 days ago
Bisexual Female
Australia

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Sexlightened
Do you know 6 other cpls who want to attend, or will you trying to source them as well as a venue? Based on the feedback most people seem to be giving on this site ( and others) it seems pretty hard to find compatible partners, so I think that you might need to rethink your plans if you aren't already well connected and want to make it a successful event. If you do end up running a party, remember that as the host, you might be expected to be a bit more involved in the actual running of the party than the play, particularly if your guests are strangers to each other too. I would think that you would have to spend quite a bit of effort vetting and matching up your guests for the sake of safety and security, as much as for making sure that you have a good group to play with. Finally, renting a weekender as Bbinder suggests sounds like a good idea, but there is an extra layer of responsibility for you - bond? Cleaning? Legal liability if you are running it as a party with strangers attending? Again, safety and security? How would the landlord react? A hotel room wouldn't fit the number of people you are considering. A serviced apartment might, but most have "no party" clauses, and they aren't even talking about sex parties! And if they aren't already known to you, do you want them coming to your own home ? If that's okay, think about the facilities and resources you will need to provide - towels, showers etc as well as ambience ( and if it was me, bloody housework to get the place into a reasonable state in the first place!) I'd really be re-thinking the club decision. Yes travel, accommodation, admission (and a sexy little number to wear) all add up, but if think you will find there are many other intangibles which are just "dealt with" if you go to a club ( and possibly ends up cheaper as well) And don't you want to be lavishing attention on her instead of having to play host? I hope it works out for you!
Sexlightened
Ultra angel, The absolutely over the top request that you received was from one specific poster, who posted and then ran. Most of the people who responded to him made similar comments to him as the ones you are now making, about how ridiculous his requests were. But, it stood out because it was SO over the top. I agree that there does seem to be an increasing trend towards being very specific about who some posters will and won't meet, and frankly I would never get a look in if I was actually in a situation of being able to meet people, and even more so if we throw mr twiddle into the mix. The only solution, as far as I can see, is to forget about cock size completely and cultivate conversation, through chat rooms, m&g, etc. In my experience, and through reports of others on here, personality trumps cock size most of the time, because really if it was only about dick, there's a whole industry devoted to silicone reproductions and we can all get EXACTLY what we want to suit our individual needs. But for the record, I gotta say I'm a size queen!
Sexlightened
Pumps are great fun - we have penis, nipple and pussy pumps. I don't know if they promote permanent size gain, but they certainly make a difference at least temporarily. As with any kind of sex toy, take care and don't overdo it.
Sexlightened
I think it comes down to the fabrics of the window furnishings. You wouldn't do it on a heavy Italian brocade or a fine striped Regency silk. You might consider it on an IKEA microfibre or on one of those homey earthy slub organic cottons. Not sure you'd want to try it on a cedar or bamboo Venetian or a plantation shutter - might be a bit like rubbing your dodger along a xylophone. Perhaps you should ask your question on the decorating forum - I'm sure the ladies there would be happy to advise!
Sexlightened
Anything leather does it for me - especially old well worn thick soft leather - it's about texture and smell for me, and the warmth it transmits of the body inside it. Not really a visual thing.
Sexlightened
Oh goodness. My heart goes out to both of you. Life can be confusing, and exes make it even more complicated - dealing with the "what if?" Instead of the here and now. Take care of yourself and be supported by the comfort of friends. Xx Ms_t
Sexlightened
" Is there a single word that one can use to describe an intelligent, genuine sexually active woman that conveys her indulgence in multiple sex partners, and that is not derogatory??" We could use "hedonist" or "libertine" as gender neutral and baggage free/ sex positive words which show a healthy and lustful approach to sex, sexuality and sexual activity.
Sexlightened
Oops, I'm guilty! But there's no ulterior motive or quietly desperate hope that somebody might strike up conversation...it's just that I can't bloody remember who's who! Obviously, statistically speaking there must be a few of us in the same category (memory challenged) but I would imagine that there are probably a whole heap more who just like to read the pictures, and never intend to take it further than their own little fantasy world.
Sexlightened
Well then nice to meet you Mrs Sunny. Some more for you to think about then: Take things as they go.... You may think you have already decided that you are planning to have full contact with the other woman - but it might not happen the way you want. There are always lots of intangibles when it comes to being intimate with either a m or f - in my opinion, arriving on the scene with a "shopping list" of things that you are going to do or to tick off is another one of those "'I'd pack up and go home" moments ( geez it sounds like I'm flighty and unreliable! Really not the case! ) Go with the flow. If you don't get everything done that you want to do, there's always going to be a next time if you've made a real connection. And finally, be prepared for Mr Sunny to think he is king of the world, lying between two women. Make sure he realises there are two other ppl there, and it's not all about him! ( but do whisper some sweet nothing's in his ear about how he's such a stud with two women ... He'll go off like a rocket!) Have a great time. smile
Sexlightened
I've been in the odd one or two threesomes ;) and there's probably a few things to keep in mind. A fmf threesome can be wild or frankly just plain boring. It works best ( in my opinion) when it's a tumble of limbs and mouths and bits. What really DOESN'T float my boat is when it's obvious I'm just there to lend a hand ( literally) or a tongue, but apart from that no consideration of me, my needs, interests or sexual desires at all. So, make sure your partner enjoys herself. Are you thinking that the two women will be involved with each other? ( ie , is it a bisexual 3 sum?) if so, make sure that this is a genuine desire of both of the women. Personally I hate the whole "putting on a show" thing or "teaching" the GF to be bi. In fact, I just won't do it, so make sure you have clarified that with your 3rd partner. Make sure that the f half of the couple ( ie not the additional woman) is really okay with the idea of watching the m with another woman. For me I LOVE watching my Man fuck and be fucked. But not all people do. I guess you won't know your response until it happens, so just be aware to keep a check on your feelings. Perhaps have discussed a code word or way of stopping a situation if it's not comfortable for both primary partners. That doesn't mean stop bolt upright with a warning flag raised. It's hard to get back in the mood if it has been broken, and if there's tension, then I'm likely to pack up and go home. Make every effort to build the sexual tease and flirtation in your evening, including all the chatting that comes before hand. But remember, sooner or later somebody has to make the first move. Don't spend all night waiting for a sign... Ho hum... It might just mean she packs up and goes home. Your 3rd partner will probably looking for subtle cues that it really is alright with the f of the couple. Make it easy for her to know that this is something you are both into, not just something she is going along with for your benefit. And finally, even though you will probably ( hopefully!) losing your mind with crazed lust, be in the moment enough to know what's going on. Be aware of each other, ( all of you) but particularly your own partner, because the really best part of a threesome comes after the third person has gone, and you get to play it all over again in your own minds and shared fantasies. And that, for me, is the absolute best part of what swinging/group sex is about - sharing with your lover. I hope you have a great time. Be safe, and take care of each other. Communication is the key. Cheers, Ms_ twiddle
Sexlightened
And following on from Tempted's advice.... Not necessarily for the OP but for anybody who takes a mirror selfie, get reallllly busy with a lint free microfibre cleaning cloth and polish that mirror til it glistens. And while you are at it, scrub the basin ( and bath, shower and shower screen if they are in the picture), remove all your old shampoo bottles and put your dirty clothes in the hamper! Trust me, it WILL make a difference. Have fun In your new adventures, JD smile
Sexlightened
Yes it has been dropping in and out recently, particularly if you go to look at a profile and then return your attention to the chat room.
Sexlightened
Likewise. Give me words over cams, pics or phones. But the words have to be powerful. Silly "erotic stories" don't do it for me.
Sexlightened
i think the point is that you have to make conversation yourself. It doesnt have to be the same conversation as others are having.. just start talking something new, and others will join in. I frequently start having random conversations with myself, with lots of observations, and inevitably people begin to converse. Once you have started chatting with a few, then it just snowballs. But ... generally speaking, conversations which are NOT about sex manage to make more ground than those that are. Because frankly. most people are happy to find a refreshing new topic. It can turn to sex after that.. but rarely do i find it makes a good opening gambit.
Sexlightened
I think it is quite likely that when RachPete first posted the question it was in fact a couple profile. This is an old message/thread which has been resurrected and while now it certainly does appear to be a male only couple, I'm under the impression from reading it when the post was first made that this was not the case. Previous messages on their profile seem to be commenting on the fact that they are a lovely couple and a great time was had by all. Sadly, circumstances and situations do change. ETA: And presumably now as a result of you pointing this out, the profile is now that of a single male, not a couple.
Sexlightened
I always look forward to Tempted Two's postings. Measured, thoughtful and above all articulate. I never found them to be rude or aggressive, even if they were on a different wavelength in discussion on the odd topic or two. It would be interesting to find out the reason for their ban - presumably they breached some site terms and conditions. It would be interesting to find out how they did this, because the last conversation I saw from them was in discussion of the advantages and disadvantages of this site, proving their response and feedback. It's a worry to think that a poster may be permanently banned because they have made what appeared to be constructive criticism of the site.
Sexlightened
I literally bumped into the nasty bitchy office lady from my workplace at a Saints and Sinners ball. Bowled round the corner and walked into a tallish, slim woman wearing a suspender belt, stockings and a g- string... I believe I may have been wearing a collar and a leather corset.... We both had a bit of a double take, laughed and from then on she was totally lovely whenever I had to deal with her at school. ( still nasty to everybody else though!)
Sexlightened
Cool - being in chat room and conversing is, as far as I'm concerned, the way to establish a presence. I find that the generic rooms ( the pool, etc) tend to have a more anonymous feel and it is indeed hard to get a conversation going. In contrast, the user created locality or interest group rooms seem to me to be more likely a place to make a friendship. And in my experience, women and men TEND to ( but not always) approach the seeking if what they say they desire in different ways. When you say women sit there but don't make an effort to seek what they say they desire, I think you are saying that they don't talk with other women about their sexual needs, interests or desires ( in the way that men do explicitly and often brusquely). I think they actually DO, but that it might be as part of a whole group conversation or discussion, instead of one on one, or they speak in generalities in public and approach women in whisper if they want to speak more intimately. It takes time to establish a rapport. I'm not saying that women want to be besties whilst men are only looking for anonymous sex, but I think that getting to " know" another chatter at least a bit in a general social context first, and then continuing discussion with her in private if you hit it off together is more likely to lead to a result for you - at least, from my experience. And if I was actively seeking to make contact, I'd be looking for a location in a profile, and probably in a locality chat room too. Cheers and good luck Ms_twiddletwat
Sexlightened
I gotta say that I read both forum postings and simply dismissed them as yet another case of "well there's a fella pretending to be a chick, wanting to talk dirty while he jerks off". Ho hum yawn, happens all the time. If you are indeed genuine, I'd suggest going into a chat room for your local area and joining in general and random discussions so you get a sense of people and they of you. For what it is worth, I have NEVER got into an intimate conversation with a woman through initially being horny and talking sex. Sure, I have occasionally had such conversations, but they arise from a warm connection rather than just jumping straight into sharing sexual experiences and ideas. But hey, good luck with it...
Sexlightened
You mean a meet up with a sexual intention, In the spa sauna or pool of a public venue, where ordinary membership paying folk might otherwise be expecting to relax after a workout or otherwise just chill? Is there really nowhere else in Adelaide where people could meet? I'd be pretty damned annoyed if I was a member of your acquatic centre in such circumstances.
Sexlightened
Oh, now the cling wrap has just turned a perfectly good food fantasy into something considerably more kinky! I approve totally. ;)
Sexlightened
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?..., jumping to conclusions there a bit .....

Not really - your profile is that of a single male, and your comment about what you get out of it says nothing about sharing the adventure or sexual encounter with your partner just that you'd get to fuck another man's wife. Which, frankly, seems to be the mind set of many of the single blokes I've encountered here.
But anyway... Back to 4wd ing - doesn't float my boat, but good luck in your endeavours.
Sexlightened
I think you are over reacting. People who are swingers are people first and foremost, and just as you might fnd teachers, nurses, doctors, police officers are secretly swingers ( and I've known swingers in all these capacities), they are also perfectly capable of keeping it in their pants when at a family barbecue. There is NOTHING wrong with or to be ashamed about living a life where you, as a couple, have or desire sex with others outside of your primary relationship. Meeting up socially with others in such a situation offers a chance to interact with others who believe this is an acceptable and desire able way of living. It doesn't mean that those who attend are going to be lining up to sneak off to the toilets for a sneaky blow job. I think that perhaps you may have the wrong idea of this kind of event. I know you were involved in organising a previous meet n greet ( I think) one Sat night, but clearly that was an entirely different setting, crowd, atmosphere. Give credit to others on this site - we know what is right and wrong. If you think you might have trouble with that, then perhaps you are right to stay away.
Sexlightened
So, you clearly aren't just coming from Brisbane to Melbourne or Sydney for a holiday - you are "bringing" one of your "girls" (not your wife/ partner/ family) for a two day event which requires them to be away from their own place of work, and you away from yours, meaning that they need to be reimbursed for their time. You are factoring in the time taken to organise the event/s as something that will also need to be compensated for. And obviously there are "consumables" which you are providing, along with the need to cover the cost of a penthouse apartment, including cleaning bond and party bond. And it's a regular, organised, scheduled occurrence. It's very much a commercial venture - perhaps you are not a registered business (although by the sound of it you should be - are you covered by Worksafe?) but it is clearly not a holiday weekend with the hope of finding some anonymous like minded company. Sure, it's people's right to choose not to attend if they don't like it, but at least be transparent in what your gang bang is - an organised sex for cash event. If that's what people want, well and good, but I do think the site admin might have some thoughts about it.
Sexlightened
But Tempted Two... Chatting is just for fakes, tyre kickers, time wasters. It's for people who aren't serious, who are just here to be all talk, no action. Isn't it? :jagsatwork::jagsatwork: :sad: Heaven forbid that people who are going to invite others into their lives, beds and/ or relationships actually spend more than half a second establishing rapport with their potential partner/s. I wish that people would take the time to consider that Online dating sites/swinging sites/sex chat sites are not supermarkets! You can't just walk in and pick out a desirable cut of meat off the shelf, take home and eat it! We live in a world of instant gratification, and sadly too many ppl have those same expectations of these sites. Not necessarily the OP's experience ( I have no idea) but in my experience, the time invested makes for a more satisfying ( and more reliable) encounter. * shoves soapbox back under the bed, and scurries off to lurk in the shadows again smile
Sexlightened
I think it all comes down to what you have in common and to how you get along. I've had a lover both 18 years older than me and 18 years younger. We had great fun together in both cases. I've also met plenty of ppl in my own age bracket who I've found dull, self centred, lacking in the ability to communicate (and please). On the other hand, Mr Twiddle and I had a young girl friend for a while. She was notoriously unreliable. I think that in her mind she was able to contemplate a relationship of kinds ( be that friends with benefits, just straight out sex, or something else) but when it came to the crunch, she constantly kept chickening out/ letting us down/ making excuses/ getting better offers. I must point out that at all times meetings were initiated by her - there was never any pressure from us for her to come and visit, although we welcomed her warmly. It became something of a joke between Mr T and I to guess what outrageous excuse she would make up to leave each time ( if she even managed to show up) - she could have just said thanks guys, I'm off now! She's out there now - I've seen her in the chat room on this site making plans with older partners. I wonder if she has become more confident in/ committed to her desires. So I think that age ( years) does play a part, but maturity, self enlightenment, confidence and just general compatibility are more important. I guess it also depends what you want to do. If you want to be best friends and bbqs, then you have to consider what on earth you will have in common to talk about.. If you want wild uninhibited sex, perhaps the conversation skills aren't so important. I recall one session with my young man where he met me naked at the door... And I left a few hours later while he was in the shower.... Not a word was said!
Sexlightened
We had a lovely young friend join us in Bangkok on our honeymoon. Both my husband and I were completely keen and open to the idea of being joined by a guest - so please don't assume that what suits one newly married relationship will be the same for everybody! From our experience, apart from the hygiene and personal and sexual safety issues mentioned above, make sure that you really understand who/ what you are negotiating with and for. Our friend, a beautiful young "girl" had only recently had her operation, and even though she was "available" she was not able to be sexually active in the way we wanted and thought we had paid for. Obviously we were newbies and were probably ripped off, but we nevertheless spent an enjoyable evening, even if it was not the full on mutual sexual contact we thought we had negotiated for. And yes, there is a moral side to be considered. Why was our friend back on the market so soon after her operation? I have no doubt that if we had rejected her and demanded money back on the grounds of false pretences, she would have still been back working for someone else. As it stood, we had fun, hopefully treated her well for a few hours, hopefully didn't repulse her too much, and we have a great story to share - but not really the kind of story you can share with extended family over the dinner table!
Sexlightened
A 10 cm fork is only a little one, as far as forks go. I hesitate to suggest that it must have been a ... wait for it... COCKtail fork. Oh dear.
Sexlightened
Lots of people come from interstate for saints smile it's a major event, not just a hook up for a shag. The best fun times I have had at saints have been far more about friends, dancing, costume, exhibitionism and networking than actually having sex. I look forward to going along once again.... Perhaps NYE